tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2019724693487670016.post322422433887301893..comments2024-03-28T15:55:33.435-07:00Comments on The Big Study: Entities and Sacred Texts in 1959The Professorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07811807639219365621noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2019724693487670016.post-83135142837250797922010-02-22T19:34:08.951-08:002010-02-22T19:34:08.951-08:00Van Tassel was a low-life and probably even a crim...Van Tassel was a low-life and probably even a criminal, as he set up his whatever-he-called-it-a-thon to claim that he could regenerate your health--obviously in aid of bilking people out of money. If that was all he was, he would just be a scumbag and play little role in our history. But he had an "accomplice" in destroying UFOs. That accomplice was the New York Times which just loved to show all the crap that was going on there in long column articles. When Giant Rock got a little "old", Buck Nelson stepped right in for maximum mockability. Keyhoe was driven half nuts by this and for good reason. It is a tribute to him--almost alone to him--that the field kept a fairly large sensible contingent of followers through the ufological desert that was the late 1950s-early 1960s. We owe that fierce old man a lot, even when he wasn't perfect.The Professorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07811807639219365621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2019724693487670016.post-79964267148362810992010-02-22T18:17:53.590-08:002010-02-22T18:17:53.590-08:00Y'know, I never even thought of Van Tassel as ...Y'know, I never even thought of Van Tassel as a destructive influence until now (Adamski is another story). Reading about him always gave me the feeling he was just another huckster who got a little extra press. Most if not all of the material and speakers he promoted were utter bilge and obviously so...although that's perhaps because I'm viewing it from a vantage point in the future.<br /><br />(And that's why I find this stuff so fascinating...I was born in 1964, so these events really ARE history in that I did not have the chance to see them first hand.)<br /><br />As to the variety of shapes, sizes and forms of the occupants: these days there are serious researchers in biology who suggest that the human race will be molding itself into a variety of different shapes, sizes and forms in the not-so-distant future.Steve Muisenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2019724693487670016.post-75818539887461095712010-02-22T15:07:42.145-08:002010-02-22T15:07:42.145-08:00Can't comment. This level of speculation is ob...Can't comment. This level of speculation is obviously well within your comfort zone, but it's pretty far outside mine. I am not qualified to say yeah or nay. The only way that I could get any purchase on such a thing at all would be something that had empirical data to it, even if such data were soft--ex. is there any evidence that the witness' state-of-mind/emotion influences the positive or negative reaction of the UFO or Entity to them? I don't see such a correlation in the files that I have---the average witness seems all over the map emotionally and the UFOs do not regularly seem to imitate that. [ and it seems that it is the witness who mainly responds to what the UFO does and not vice versa]. But if you think something is there, go for it---but don't just cleverly imagine stuff---we need some digging; deep data correlations. My answer is a [mild] response to your specific theory, not to the possible relevance of entities like Djinn generally.The Professorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07811807639219365621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2019724693487670016.post-64759357818233603452010-02-22T13:57:54.656-08:002010-02-22T13:57:54.656-08:00PART TWO
In the story I just related, what was su...PART TWO<br /><br />In the story I just related, what was supposedly happening was the 'madman' at the back of the mosque was being unwillingly manipulated by the quite unwitting intensity the imam was devoting to daydreaming about acquiring his precious cow. In fact, I suggest one of the meanings of the universal spiritual symbol of the mirror alludes to precisely this condition of reflecting the states of others.<br /><br />Now if you take the approach the miraculous abilities attributed to Sufis, Buddhas, Christs are because they've evolved into a sort of human equivalent of angels/djinns, then it's not inconceivable these type 5s, type 6s're unstable precisely they're oscillating between being one moment human, the next djinn.<br /><br />And if it really WAS the case humans who’re only half-djinn are extremely susceptible to the unwitting influence of ordinary human mentation, then isn’t it possible that ACTUAL djinn are JUST as, or even MORE susceptible to such influences?<br /><br />The point I’m getting at is such a scenario would explain the variability of the mood your brownies exhibit – it may be that all they’re doing is reflecting the momentary emotional state of light heartedness or aggressive turmoil the human they’re dealing with is currently in. It’s happened to all of us, at one time or another, that someone’s pointed out to us we’re in a bad mood, and yet until that moment we hadn’t even realised it – ditto some of the people encountering brownies.<br /><br />The same scenario, of course, might explain why, over the ages, one set of gods and daemons were replaced by another set, why they, in turn, were succeeded by angels and devils, finally bringing us to the advent of, say, the tall Scandinavian type ufonauts and the men in black.<br /><br />It might explain why a Northern European might encounter strange, dark, sinister Hispanic, Arabian, Oriental types: while they’re accessing his nervous system to interact with him as if they’re human, his nervous system’s telling him, “These folk ain’t from ‘round here,” and maybe even doing its own equivalent of “Danger, danger, Will Robinson!”<br /><br />It might also explain why some people encounter Flash Gordon style spacemen, others Heath Robinson style rickety contraptions, others slick intergalactic motherships – they reflect in some way the historical lexicon of imagery they’ve acquired throughout their lives.<br /><br />It might even be if SOME humans, by following various ‘spiritual’ paths, CAN become unstable wielders of marvellous powers, it’s precisely because it’s something we’re ALL capable of, and every so often some poor sap suddenly proves it by spontaneously becoming a half-djinn for a brief period, in the process unwittingly drawing REAL djinn to him like moths to a fire.<br /><br />Just a thought.<br /><br />alanborkyborkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05042275165058229970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2019724693487670016.post-61176674714575899182010-02-22T13:56:53.341-08:002010-02-22T13:56:53.341-08:00PART ONE (part two follows immediately after)
Pro...PART ONE (part two follows immediately after)<br /><br />Prof, there's an Idries Shah Sufi story - paralleled in other 'spiritual' systems - which goes:<br /><br />One day a certain acclaimed imam was leading the public recital of the Koran when all of a sudden there came a tremendous mooing sound from somewhere at the back of the mosque.<br /><br />Everyone turned to behold a certain scruffy figure, (variously held to be a divinely inspired madman or troublesome village idiot), inanely cavorting about with his index fingers curled atop his head as if they were horns.<br /><br />Outraged by his seemingly blasphemous behaviour the crowd converged as if to lynch him - until the imam admitted, "No, no, the fault's mine - here's me supposedly rhapsodizing the unearthly beauties of The Koran, exhorting you to live by its precious tenets, and all the time my thoughts were elsewhere wond'ring whether or not to buy a certain marvellous cow..."<br /><br />Now, like all such stories, that story's so many levels it's almost beyond belief, but the one I wan'o draw your attention to's the one which explains that, according to Sufi doctrine, there're certain stages on the Way, before the stability of full Sufihood, (or Christhood, or Buddhahood, for that matter), is attained, when individuals begin to develop magical, djinn-like 'psychic' capacities but also become extremely suggestible to the unwitting influence of ordinary people’s often obsessive thoughts, (types Gurdjieff referred to as 5s, and 6s).<br /><br />In fact some individuals can become so vulnerable to these unwitting influences they're forced to go into quarantine in places like deserts or caves for periods lasting anything from 40 days to 40 years.<br /><br />alanborkyborkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05042275165058229970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2019724693487670016.post-69521292448662899852010-02-22T13:50:06.875-08:002010-02-22T13:50:06.875-08:00To anonymous: maybe, but nothing came up--maybe th...To anonymous: maybe, but nothing came up--maybe that was the point. ----------------------------------To Steve: correct, but one probably bigger thing--NICAP was sensing the tremendous damage to credibility by Adamski et al and that everything would be smeared into that same basket and all chance would be lost. One thing that we forget is how completely effective the yearly Giant Rock conventions were at obliterating any gains that serious UFOlogy made during the rest of the year. In many ways George Van Tassel is one of the most important people in UFOlogical history since he consistently destroyed it.--------------------------------------------------------------------To Richard: well, maybe, but we did "P" not too long ago with an even longer string.The Professorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07811807639219365621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2019724693487670016.post-43086586299522187722010-02-22T11:05:51.299-08:002010-02-22T11:05:51.299-08:00Interesting blog with the type of high strangeness...Interesting blog with the type of high strangeness I like. Brownies-bogles-bogyman-bugaboos...hmmm. What is it with the letter 'b' here? Great stuff.richardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2019724693487670016.post-19367473820081276112010-02-22T09:53:10.723-08:002010-02-22T09:53:10.723-08:00Dear Professor,
Another fascinating entry.
NIC...Dear Professor, <br /><br />Another fascinating entry. <br /><br />NICAP's reluctance to publicize occupant reports is understandable in light of the varying descriptions of the occupants. If all of the reports described one 'type' of occupant (say, hairy dwarfs) NICAP could have pointed them out and said "That's what the pilots of these things look like!"<br /><br />But there was this incredible mishmash of physical types reported that appeared to make NICAP queasy.Steve Muisenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2019724693487670016.post-34719070549364857022010-02-22T08:46:12.720-08:002010-02-22T08:46:12.720-08:00You'll find a lot of answers to the identities...You'll find a lot of answers to the identities of these beings in this book:<br /><br />http://www.tinyurl.com/3bxp4rAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2019724693487670016.post-91489810360364687962010-02-20T08:01:51.942-08:002010-02-20T08:01:51.942-08:00To all: it's hard to try to "illuminate&q...To all: it's hard to try to "illuminate" "willy's" inside references for those who don't know what he's talking about, but I'll let you in on the "Bill--> Gill--> Hill-->" thing. That's just my way of referring to the relatively tight progression of the phenomenological set of UFO experiences from NICAP-style [Bill Nash] to CSI/APRO-style [Father Gill] to on-board experiences {Betty and Barney Hill]. This progression is hard to deny since the cases seem so strong, and force the expansion of one's thinking about UFOs to possible on-board experiences whether one is comfortable with that or not. His allusion to Budd Hopkins' work is not what I do when I'm making that Bill/Gill/Hill point. Budd's work can be viewed either as part of the "Hill" element of this, or as going far beyond it to mass numbers of alien-induced pregnancies and a Dave Jacobs' like world takeover by hybrids. In other words there is a whole other world of "scope" or sequential expansion of hypotheses in there that I refuse to include in my simpler historical assessment. One is welcome to go into modern "abductology" as far along that path as one wishes, but, in my mind, it is a second evaluatory trip that one may choose to reject, according to ones' reading of the information, at any point. It does not have, for me the ineluctable power of "Bill to Gill to Hill". "Willy", as he always does, is trying to confuse everybody, but we shall stand firm at the bridge and confusion shall not pass!The Professorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07811807639219365621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2019724693487670016.post-15445748891193148312010-02-20T05:32:42.113-08:002010-02-20T05:32:42.113-08:00Thanks Professor! More great stuff from the great...Thanks Professor! More great stuff from the great behind the scenes history of ufology. People don't realize how deep the rivers run. NICAP's "schizophrenia" makes me think of how each of us has our own limits of believability or acceptability - like your Bill-Gill-Hill-Hopkins progression you shared with me once. Then there's the really high strangeness stuff....<br />Great blog!Peter Saucerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16349540965664679379noreply@blogger.com