tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2019724693487670016.post518096855675957298..comments2024-03-28T15:55:33.435-07:00Comments on The Big Study: A Quick Notice of a Coincidence, plus a little news.The Professorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07811807639219365621noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2019724693487670016.post-27177625797321248622014-07-22T19:33:25.303-07:002014-07-22T19:33:25.303-07:00As I remember the Kelly-Hopkinsville case, the onl...As I remember the Kelly-Hopkinsville case, the only "animosity" the ufonauts displayed was in repeatedly coming back after being shot-at (and knocked over by it). The implications are that (taking it that they were materially there) they either were mechanisms, or had "force field" protection against contact shock waves from bullets and shot-pellets (the latter might be needed by robots, too). In either case, the total appearance they had would have much to do with the technology warding off damage.<br /><br />Frank John ReidAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2019724693487670016.post-12741820272187856902014-07-17T08:06:55.660-07:002014-07-17T08:06:55.660-07:00As we know, as Dr. Who said: "Anything's ...As we know, as Dr. Who said: "Anything's possible --- well almost." But I have a fair difficulty buying into the 10 year old boys knowing about Kelly-Hopkinsville. If someone wanted to imagine them seeing some movie, kids book, or TV show about goblins or Disneyish friendly elfin critters, OK, I'll entertain that. So, I'm "happy" with prosaic here. {I actually brought this one up because the case investigators liked the "coincidence" themselves. I'm much more comfortable with the Albuquerque Flying Wing.} <br /><br />As to Out Proctor, I practically live there, and I can tell you that it's Trickster Central. The Professorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07811807639219365621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2019724693487670016.post-62500208605027435412014-07-17T06:36:17.064-07:002014-07-17T06:36:17.064-07:00It should also be noted that there may be a more p...It should also be noted that there may be a more prosaic explanation for the "coincidence" between what form of "aliens" were reportedly seen in the 1955 Hopkinsville incident and the similarity in morphology to the entities that the two boys in Bangor allegedly saw in 1989 -- they could have been previously exposed to or read about the Hopkinsville case, and seen an illustration or graphic recreation of those earlier semi-humanoid forms, and possibly superimposed, confabulated, or even hoaxed what form of beings they reported observing onboard their "craft" almost 35 years later. <br /><br />Or, going entirely "out Proctor" here, and employing the concept of Vallee's "staged display" idea, perhaps the non-human intelligence orchestrating the scenario were lazily re-using the relatively rare model 18-7b Hopkinsville "goblin" format for enhanced plausible deniability. ;-)<br /><br />You know, a little "cosmic joke" -- one can never completely dismiss the possibility of the "trickster" element, now can we? Curious Fellownoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2019724693487670016.post-19252714874287950352014-07-14T16:21:16.568-07:002014-07-14T16:21:16.568-07:00Yes, thank you. This is one of those "where&#...Yes, thank you. This is one of those "where's the line" sorts of things. I know that Chiumiento [the researcher] felt that the creature in the Italian case was similar to Kelly, but for me it crossed the line into "that's not quite close enough". The Italian critter allegedly had a rather demonic look about it with extended "vampirish" canine teeth. Its eyes were much more sinister as well. <br /><br />What would be necessary to suggest that all three of these cases were of the same entity would be to postulate that it was the human psychological differences which "colored" the impression the things gave the witnesses, and powerfully enough to significantly alter prominent features. Possible, I suppose. The little kids seeing a friendlier "elf." The old Italian man seeing a demon. The Kentucky country folk just seeing what was actually there. The Professorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07811807639219365621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2019724693487670016.post-58242118203497340432014-07-14T14:21:27.045-07:002014-07-14T14:21:27.045-07:00In the August 1983 issue of "Flying Saucer Re...In the August 1983 issue of "Flying Saucer Review" there was an article called, "Rat Faces in Italy" concerning similar UFO occupants.Malcolm Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00672612354161787023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2019724693487670016.post-36373915130485069042014-07-14T11:13:33.733-07:002014-07-14T11:13:33.733-07:00At what point does the ineffable go off the scale ...At what point does the ineffable go off the scale and become simply invisible, imperceptible, unless it chooses to reveal itself? But Revelation in caps always has a point to make, is meaningful. Jokes and pranks are of a different and perhaps lower class.Pavelhttp://www.pavelspoetry.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2019724693487670016.post-37078844819131883212014-07-14T11:07:04.052-07:002014-07-14T11:07:04.052-07:00Perhaps. However, manipulation of whatever genome ...Perhaps. However, manipulation of whatever genome the putative creatures may possess would let them appear and behave is required. They might just be expert biologists.Pavelhttp://www.pavelspoetry.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2019724693487670016.post-29498467491807008142014-07-13T18:12:39.572-07:002014-07-13T18:12:39.572-07:00Admit it, Mike. The ilk of your ilk lack the wit ...Admit it, Mike. The ilk of your ilk lack the wit to outwit this wit, than whom no one is more witful, as witness his multiple witty pseudonyms, which he as wit finds wittily witty.<br /><br />And here you thought that, with your knowledge, intelligence, and education, you could outwit the mighty Kurt Peters, mutilator of millions who lack his keen, and manifestly superior, understanding of anything you've ever turned your so-called intellectual attention to. I'll bet you even thought that Kurt Peters had gone on to make-believe-name heaven, or wherever he ended up (I claim no authority on the subject, though I have my suspicions). <br /><br />But really, sir, in all seriousness: how can an idea as dumb as Kurt Peters ever die? And in even greater seriouserness:<br /><br />Aren't we all, in our heart of hearts, Kurt Peters?<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Jerome Clarknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2019724693487670016.post-2147476081505545462014-07-13T16:40:32.253-07:002014-07-13T16:40:32.253-07:00Some ass just posted a jerk comment mocking me tha...Some ass just posted a jerk comment mocking me that I have deleted. It contained no substantive information and was equivalent to an immature troll remark. I will probably have to put up with this ass several times more as trolls "enjoy their highschoolish work". Once again we are treated to the non-collegiality for which UFOlogy is widely known. The mystery associated with this is why people believe that their time is best wasted wasting others. The Professorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07811807639219365621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2019724693487670016.post-17741643852327267782014-07-13T15:12:03.563-07:002014-07-13T15:12:03.563-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Kurt Petershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09217079871185958463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2019724693487670016.post-63987224201856080012014-07-13T07:15:28.007-07:002014-07-13T07:15:28.007-07:00Thank you for your interesting views.
Most of th...Thank you for your interesting views. <br /><br />Most of this I could entertain quite "peacefully." However I could hardly disagree more with the rejection of convergent evolution and humanoid form [for the "original" evolved bioforms in the historical past of these civilizations.] I've studied and written on this somewhat extensively, partly stimulated by Vallee's arguments about hypothetical non-prevalence of humanoid bioforms and the non-ability to breathe atmospheres. <br /><br />If one wishes to postulate that the current UFOnauts are evolved beyond their biological past to the extent that they are no longer bioevolutionarily limited, and perhaps even mechanical, then I'll agree that no one knows enough to argue that point either way. The Professorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07811807639219365621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2019724693487670016.post-54640292609193812202014-07-13T02:05:18.515-07:002014-07-13T02:05:18.515-07:00After 20+ years of interest and research into the ...After 20+ years of interest and research into the UFO phenomenon, I've come to the conclusion that, in the vast majority of cases where CE III type "alien" entities are concerned, that what is perceived, especially in regard to what appear to be "humanoid-style" beings being observed and reported by witnesses, is that such "entities" are most probably _not_ what they <i>appear</i> to be, but are rather more likely to be, as Vallee defined them, synthesized or "staged displays" with an intended anthropomorphic form keyed to the perceptions, cultural expectations, and intellectual acumen and biases about such "ET's" the witnesses have been previously exposed to or can conceptually relate to or psychologically understand on some level.<br /><br />In other words, the appearance of "the other" is created, calibrated, and acts as a kind of cultural influence mechanism, perhaps as a kind of subtle and sub rosa informational interface of sorts, for various possible reasons, with the requisite variety of humanoid forms for essential plausible deniability embedded within such incidents. <br /><br />The visual appearance of these "aliens" should, it seems to me at least, not be taken literally as to how they appear. No, it's more of a kind of "avatar" concept -- the great, green steaming head of Oz, after all, was not what was real, it "only" was intended to be _perceived_ as such -- while behind the "curtain" something else (and not very likely a gentle, or kindly old mustachioed wizard or a Hopkinsville goblin) is what is actually pulling on the gears and levers of our belief systems. I.E., the scenario is created for at least some degree of familiarity with an anthropocentric orientation. <br /><br />Of course, this too is speculation. But it's a more coherent, logical theory than that the risible "grays" or other "57 varieties" of humanoid being actually real. Unless you believe in convergent evolution between divergent star systems. I do not.<br /><br />The historic details of the best UFO cases on record do suggest some form(s) of advanced non-human intelligence is probably involved, but I would posit that intelligence is so far from human or humanoid form as to be nearly incomprehensible. Ineffable. Incommensurable. Whatever. Just... <i><b>not</b> like us.</i><br /><br />It would not surprise me in the least that whatever "the others" may be, "they" can take on virtually any form and staged appearance needed to accomplish whatever it is they intend by making their existence, at least, known. Don't want to scare the natives <i>too</i> badly, after all. Wouldn't be... productive, don't you know? Just enough to create an indelible impression. <br /><br />And that's no coincidence, either. Curious Fellownoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2019724693487670016.post-45071599844956129472014-07-12T17:40:37.021-07:002014-07-12T17:40:37.021-07:00What has always set the Hopkinsville case apart fo...What has always set the Hopkinsville case apart for me was the behaviour of the creatures rather than the absence of a craft. I don't recall any other case where beings have displayed such animosity towards humans. Anonymous Astronomernoreply@blogger.com