tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2019724693487670016.post885129363647351559..comments2024-03-28T15:55:33.435-07:00Comments on The Big Study: Did SCIENCE Just Say That Myra Shackley Was Right???The Professorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07811807639219365621noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2019724693487670016.post-45638124295592077342012-12-19T00:00:27.656-08:002012-12-19T00:00:27.656-08:00When I first heard about the discovery of Denisova...When I first heard about the discovery of Denisovan Man, and the region in which the remains were found, I immediately thought of the Almas. I too agree that the recent discoveries in the Altai Mountains as well as the discoveries on Florence Island (combined with the local "myths" about "little people") provide considerable evidence that relic populations of non-human hominids survived at the very least into recent centuries - and may still be alive today. The stuffy dogmatism of academia always wants to pooh pooh such "radical" theories, yet the discoveries continue. Seven years ago the idea that fossil remains of non-human hominids living alongside Neanderthals and Homo Sapiens would ever be found would have been considered absurd by many. Yet here we are, and the possible reality of the Almas, the Oran Padek, Yeti, Sasquatch and perhaps other "mythological" species are gaining in plausibility. Thanks for contributing your input on this highly fascinating matter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2019724693487670016.post-41203549319507295102011-02-18T03:31:32.751-08:002011-02-18T03:31:32.751-08:00Dear Professor, thank you very much for your answe...Dear Professor, thank you very much for your answer. I will have a root around myself. I wish your mother and yourself all the best. Chris Steer.christopher steerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09487441611801574663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2019724693487670016.post-13182872784742852432011-02-17T06:18:23.941-08:002011-02-17T06:18:23.941-08:00I wish that I could help on this question but I ca...I wish that I could help on this question but I can't. As regular readers of the blog know, a]. I'm primarily a UFOlogist; and b]. I am mainly in Wheeling WV helping care for my 94-year-old mother, and consequently don't have my library with me [which would include Shackley's book, and her specific claims on items like you mention]. I have interests in most-things-cryptozoological [and have published some of my own stuff elsewhere and here on the blog] but "new requests" to me in that field require some real serious scholarship time which I rarely have anymore. That's why I limited my comments in this post to a simple framing of her larger theory with the new palaeontological information.The Professorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07811807639219365621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2019724693487670016.post-54106586403738335192011-02-16T12:57:24.377-08:002011-02-16T12:57:24.377-08:00(addition)....rather than being judged as they sto...(addition)....rather than being judged as they stood.christopher steerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09487441611801574663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2019724693487670016.post-42622032779328190722011-02-16T12:51:35.177-08:002011-02-16T12:51:35.177-08:00Dear Professor, what is your opinion of Myra Shack...Dear Professor, what is your opinion of Myra Shackley's tool finds in their own right. How open to different interpretation (age/nature) are they. Were they perhaps rejected out of hand because they suggested the unthinkable? Chris Steer.christopher steerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09487441611801574663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2019724693487670016.post-82994705681889473222011-02-12T19:30:50.487-08:002011-02-12T19:30:50.487-08:00Folks, I deleted a post of irrelevancy. You who ha...Folks, I deleted a post of irrelevancy. You who have been reading this blog know that I prefer to have posts and comments which offer some substance, even if it's just a question, and don't like triviality which borders on an ego-trip, like we see so often in this media.The Professorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07811807639219365621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2019724693487670016.post-88943030359682370992011-02-12T16:23:18.750-08:002011-02-12T16:23:18.750-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Rejectamentahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01397269623691356494noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2019724693487670016.post-61953347610234939662011-02-11T06:49:31.061-08:002011-02-11T06:49:31.061-08:00Hello, Prof.
Interesting article. It appears ...Hello, Prof.<br /><br /> Interesting article. It appears to me that the 'human tree' is more akin to the 'human bush.' Like the saying goes: 'You can't pick your relatives.'richardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2019724693487670016.post-14867924667857085142011-02-10T07:08:25.918-08:002011-02-10T07:08:25.918-08:00To jgm,
What the pinkie bone indicates is the pre...To jgm,<br /><br />What the pinkie bone indicates is the presence of another hominid in that area 30K years ago. If the Almas DO exist they wouldn't be recent arrivals, ergo the Denisova discovery is relevant to the question. Additionally, if I remember correctly (I'm a computer scientist, not an anthropologist) the cultural artifacts found at the site were from a different date than the bones in question.<br /><br />Is this firm proof of Shackely's work? No. Is it intriguing? Yes. <br /><br />I would separate Almas from Sasquatch/Bigfoot; from the witness descriptions it's clear (to me, anyway) that we're dealing with two distinct species with two distinct sets of behaviors. <br /><br />- Steve MuiseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2019724693487670016.post-449989717926213252011-02-10T06:54:33.870-08:002011-02-10T06:54:33.870-08:00To jgm: you're welcome to your opinions. Myra ...To jgm: you're welcome to your opinions. Myra Shackley thought that there might be some form of non-human homonid existing in the Altai region in recent times. The scientists just determined that there was such a homonid existing there in geologically recent times [30,000 years ago--firm data]. This makes her hypothesis a worthy one, i.e. that such individuals might still exist or have existed later enough to have been seen by "modern" humans. If you can't credit any part of what I've just typed, then I can't help you.<br /><br /> As for "victory laps", the title of this post contains a question mark---three of them in fact. The last sentence of the penultimate paragraph contains the past tense. The difference between what was found and what must still be found to PROVE the current existence of a crypto-claim is clearly indicated by the language. This post is to indicate that the recent discovery makes her hypothesis that much more respectable NOT that it puts it into the textbooks.<br /><br /> I'd ask you to pick your words more carefully when talking to different individuals. The last time I noticed my name was not Loren Coleman. If you want to comment here in a more moderate style you are welcome. Your last two sentences in paragraph one are mocking the post and thereby mocking me. This blog is my personal blog and I insist on civilized communications. Contrary viewpoints are welcome, but I expect them to be delivered with grace and humility. This, as they say, is my home, not yours. You are not dealing with a biased fanatic here. Whether Almas exists or not has no bearing on my lifepath.The Professorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07811807639219365621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2019724693487670016.post-36624644399980672372011-02-10T00:04:46.646-08:002011-02-10T00:04:46.646-08:00I'm confused about the headline. Finding a pie...I'm confused about the headline. Finding a piece of a bone of a very close relative (twice the difference in DNA as between modern human and neanderthal) that is tens of thousands of years old in no way confirms the existence of something that would be far more different from homo sapiens and alive today. It doesn't even suggest it. This is like finding a tooth of an extinct horse within a few hundred miles of where some ancient greek thought unicorns used to live.<br /><br /> We need to add another branch to the family tree and understand that human evolution is more complex than we thought and there appear to be more dead ends than expected. That has nothing to do with the idea that giant hairy ape-men are still running around today. To touch on what Mr. Muise brought up, I believe that found along with the bones was what was described as "a bracelet" among other artifacts including tools. Again, this relative bears no relation to the postulated almas, which remain without any fossil evidence for their existence, nor any discernable link to the human family tree. I'm going to say what I said to Mr. Coleman when this story first broke: "Cryptozoology can draw inspiration from this find as a firm reminder that human origins are far from settled, but I believe it needs to avoid doing victory laps with the pinky bone held high or else it could backfire."alcaldehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14404682533930977783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2019724693487670016.post-40634191744110615922011-02-09T14:38:11.511-08:002011-02-09T14:38:11.511-08:00Coleman seems to think that.Coleman seems to think that.The Professorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07811807639219365621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2019724693487670016.post-44459585954348706672011-02-09T14:26:23.969-08:002011-02-09T14:26:23.969-08:00Dear Professor,
I've always had a suspicion t...Dear Professor,<br /><br />I've always had a suspicion that Dr Shackley was on the right track regarding the Almas but classified them as the wrong species (not surprising given the anthropological knowledge available at the time). Neandertals had material culture and fire, the Almas don't. It seems to me that perhaps the Almas are a relict population of h. erectus.<br /><br />Interesting stuff!<br /><br />- Steve MuiseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2019724693487670016.post-84594179676759194612011-02-08T19:02:31.988-08:002011-02-08T19:02:31.988-08:00Yeh, I couldn't help the digital reference. No...Yeh, I couldn't help the digital reference. Now that I'm formally on the wrong side of 70, I'm getting a little carefree with my scholarship.The Professorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07811807639219365621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2019724693487670016.post-79853102077613586642011-02-07T21:19:57.997-08:002011-02-07T21:19:57.997-08:00Very Nice Professor!
The middle finger joke was c...Very Nice Professor!<br /><br />The middle finger joke was classic.<br /><br />"As an aside: there is even some evidence that some of these critters had red hair [no Irish Jokes!; I'm Irish]."<br /><br />Red Hair...Essau? hmmmm ;)Bob Kofordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01739226809252915992noreply@blogger.com