This sort of question is rife with possibilities of being so misunderstood from the first sentence that it subtracts from the knowledge base of the Universe rather than adds to it. This is because [primarily], we haven't even said what the heck we even mean by "disclosure". I am going to separate the myriad of possible "disclosure" concepts into three, which I will try to comment upon without offending the Cosmos too much. There are other definitions of the term which could serve as the basis for discussion as well. I'll stick with these three.
"Disclosure Type One" means the general revealing of government information about UFOs to the public. A Disclosure project of this type would be any serious attempt undertaken by an organization to do so.
"Disclosure Type Two" will here mean the specific recent attempts by [mainly] Leslie Kean to accomplish that same thing, sometimes in a specific case; sometimes more generally.
"Disclosure Type Three" will here mean those activities sponsored by Steven Greer.
A few words about Type One. This has been going on for a very long time. It was the primary agenda item of NICAP, Major Keyhoe, Richard Hall, and many of the Giants of "ancient" UFOlogy. It was an extreme irritant in the hide of the intelligence community and particularly the Air Force, and required a special Pentagon/Wright-Pat hit-team to thwart them in the late fifties and early sixties. The released insider documents describing this "team's" struggles to head Keyhoe off are the clearest statements of government deliberately blocking UFO inquiry that any conspiracy theorist would desire. Was NICAP a success??? Well, sure, in piecemeal ways. Here and there military people and other witnesses came forth, but the intel community held tight. NICAP was also a success in its inspiration of people like Jim McDonald and in a way caused the environment that required the Colorado Project. And on non-NICAP notes: was Captain Ruppelt's book definable as "disclosure"?? Were Al Chop/Dewey Fournet's releases to Keyhoe?? That all sounds pretty disclosure-ish to me....but I guess that's not what we're really talking about, nor what inspired the request-----though it SHOULD be the basis for any such discussion.
"Disclosure Type Two" Leslie Kean-style. Leslie Kean is an outstanding reporter and a very smart lady. She is no nonsense and works hard at vetting the information that she features. Most people know of the Press Conference she and John Podesta organized in 2007, but probably don't even remember her name. She [and people like Podesta] deserve all the credit for that, however. And I am talking about positive credit---praise. Most of the witnesses or secondary testifiers who presented their stories on that day are rock solid. Some of the great cases of recent UFOlogy were featured [The Iranian Jet chase; The JAL airliner case; The real part of the Phoenix AZ sightings---rather than the bogus pictures everyone cites; etc etc]. These were outstanding testimonies in a classy presentation with a minimum of embarrassing gaffs. This conference is written up in her book: UFOs--Generals, Pilots, and Government Officials Go On The Record. If you want good UFOlogy, you should buy the book.
"Disclosure Type Two" Leslie Kean-style. Leslie Kean is an outstanding reporter and a very smart lady. She is no nonsense and works hard at vetting the information that she features. Most people know of the Press Conference she and John Podesta organized in 2007, but probably don't even remember her name. She [and people like Podesta] deserve all the credit for that, however. And I am talking about positive credit---praise. Most of the witnesses or secondary testifiers who presented their stories on that day are rock solid. Some of the great cases of recent UFOlogy were featured [The Iranian Jet chase; The JAL airliner case; The real part of the Phoenix AZ sightings---rather than the bogus pictures everyone cites; etc etc]. These were outstanding testimonies in a classy presentation with a minimum of embarrassing gaffs. This conference is written up in her book: UFOs--Generals, Pilots, and Government Officials Go On The Record. If you want good UFOlogy, you should buy the book.
Having justifiably praised Leslie for a job well done, did it result in "disclosure"?? Well, yes, if you mean the testimonies themselves. No if you mean government consequently releasing what it knows. In a way, this was another, somewhat better done, classier, NICAP-like activity---getting witnesses of high credibility to publicly state what had occurred, sometimes behind closed doors.
This sort of excellent UFO work is classed, by me, along with other "modern" things, such as her own championing of Stan Gordon's efforts to get the Kecksburg documents released [which failed to do so], Don Schmitt and Kevin Randle's heroic efforts [beyond any such ever in UFOlogy] to get the government to come clean on Roswell [parasitic "efforts" such as Right-to-Know, were at best toothless and at worst embarrassing, simply adding to our reputation as screwballs and idiots], and the similar but different heroism of the great FOIA-hunters such as Barry Greenwood, Jan Aldrich, and Robert Todd. Of all of them, it has only been the FOIA-Masters who have pried loose "hidden documents" and thereby created "disclosure" by their own tenacity. Keyhoe would be proud.
Then there is "Disclosure Type Three". Lord save us!! I'm not going to go into this mess. Suffice it to say that although pop-UFOlogists glue Leslie Kean's 2007 press conference and Greer's "Project" together, in her book Leslie politely thanks him for loaning her some FOIA documents and never mentions him nor his project at all. There are myriads of reasons to discount most of what has been presented in Type Three, and once in a while there has been someone roped in to present who actually has something to say. Not worth it, folks. Don't pollute your knowledge. It's as shaky as his suggestions that you join him in pursuing anti-gravity and free energy technologies learned from the UFOs. Run!! Run away!! At least don't send a check. .... and, as I knew I would, I've said too much already.
Then there is "Disclosure Type Three". Lord save us!! I'm not going to go into this mess. Suffice it to say that although pop-UFOlogists glue Leslie Kean's 2007 press conference and Greer's "Project" together, in her book Leslie politely thanks him for loaning her some FOIA documents and never mentions him nor his project at all. There are myriads of reasons to discount most of what has been presented in Type Three, and once in a while there has been someone roped in to present who actually has something to say. Not worth it, folks. Don't pollute your knowledge. It's as shaky as his suggestions that you join him in pursuing anti-gravity and free energy technologies learned from the UFOs. Run!! Run away!! At least don't send a check. .... and, as I knew I would, I've said too much already.
If you want to look for real "disclosure", look at the countries of Spain, Australia, Sweden. They've unloaded their files. In every case it was with the assistance of very credible and cooperative UFOlogists---people like Vicente-Juan Ballester-Olmos in Spain, Bill Chalker in Australia, Clas Svahn and Andres Liljegren in Sweden, all of whom I am proud to call colleagues in this great Mystery Chase we are on. Some other countries like France, Italy, and Belgium have had their moments as well. Don't yet get too excited about the UK---their "releases" [despite heroism by David Clarke] don't look at all like the "good stuff" yet to me.
Dear Professor,
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ReplyDeleteThanks for posting that. Many layers to this onion. To most folks, # 1 is the biggy. What I imagine will happen is that the alien reality will gradually become an accepted part of our world view without any gov't. taking blame or credit for that. As you suggest, the disclosure event time-table might be set by interests OTHER than governments. Or by the aliens themselves.
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richard
The only relatively sure thing here is that responsible UFO researchers can know that they can contribute substantially to the field by working at the FOIA process and then sharing their "harvest" and insights with the rest of us. Having just plowed through hundreds of pages of intelligence documents to help author the "big book" that's coming out, I can tell you that those sorts of documents tell us everything we need to know about government strategy in the face of a real phenomenon that they saw as a psychological warfare threat. And the amount of power in the cases themselves is overwhelmingly convincing, just as Hynek said.
ReplyDeleteProf, im curious how your opinion on people like john lear and bob lazar, i mean how do most veteran ufologist view them and their many hypothesis?
ReplyDeletealso i assume you know ingo swann and his book penetration. What do you think about ingo's encounter with UFO on mount hayes, meeting entities while remote viewing moon and meeting aliens disguised as humans. Is Ingo's perception clouded by his many years of psychic CRV and he was dealt bad data/ information from the agency behind ufo phenomena ?
I have only a disappointing remark here.
Deletea]. I don't believe anything Bob Lazar says and that probably goes for John Lear too [though I haven't tried to read ALL he's said].
b]. my best colleagues in the UFO community would be less kind than I am about Lazar and Lear.
c]. I do not know the Swann book so cannot remark. Hal Puthoff is a friend though, and he respects Swann, so I have some faith in him via that second-hand reason. Swann's OOBE "meeting" with UFO Entities sounds more like Trance-control Mediumship contacteeism than core UFO phenomenon. I'm reluctant, to say the least, to buy any such encounters/information as having anything to do directly with UFOs at all. It still can be some sort of reality, however.
since you mention it, what do you think of the "The JAL airliner case"... an unusual cloud ? or real UFO Phenomena ?
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